We are all complicated people, and we don't like to be put in boxes. That leads to complicated conversations and complicated discussions around tough topics. So what is the best way to have these conversations? Is it to compartmentalize each facet and discuss them individually? Or are we better off having a conversation where everything connects to everything and we get side-tracked easily? In this episode Pat & Britt talk about how they think through tough conversations and how they've seen isolation come up in discussion.